Dog Poet Transmitting.......
May your noses always be cold and wet.
Much of the time, people don't know what to do when it come to aiding themselves in the process of self realization. Some people meditate but what are they meditating on? Everyone meditates in one fashion or another, even if they don't think they do. A lot of that is known as negative meditation. Manly Palmer Hall wrote a little booklet about this. I do not remember the name of it (grin). Some people chant but what is in their mind as they are chanting. What is the focus of their chant and is it consistent? Some people pray but what is the level of determined result? What is the mindset concerning the realization of the request or intention? Pretty much all of the time, successful result of spiritual practice, is dependent on secondary factors inside of the primary methodology. Ignoring or being unaware of this, is the cause of failure or inconsistent outcome in so many cases.
When it comes to meditation, there are few people that can gain positive result from eccentric or self styled performance. It is best to operate in a system and there are some good ones out there. What you have to discover is what group out of the human collective you are representative of. Let us think of the Atman as the white light. Let us think of the world as a prism. This means the world as a metaphysical construct, as well as in the traditional sense. Let us think of each member of the human race as being resident on one of seven rays that come out of the prism. Surely there is a better way to illustrate what I am talking about but the important thing is whether you get the point of my intentions.
Recognizing your ray, grants you access to the systems and conditions that relate to you. This is not to say that there is no value for you in the contents and potentials of another ray. This is only to say that a greater ease of passage exists for you in your own ray; by example, certain musical instruments might be more relevant to the ray you are on, more so than another. One might be guitar and one might be piano and some people can play both of them very well. Though this might be the case when talking about musical instruments, it might not be the same with spiritual practices and, then again, it might. I'm not seeking to be confusing, even if I accomplish it. I'm trying to paint a picture and I hope when I am done here, you will be able to see what is in the picture. We'll be talking about pictures in a bit.
Some people have problems with Alice Bailey, Lucius Trust, well, just about any name you hear, there are people who denounce them and try to associate them with negative or infernal sources. These last years, I have heard people condemn Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King, I suspect that you can't mention anyone these days, where someone doesn't have something bad to say about them. I have mentioned my position on Masons, Rosicrucians and other organizations. What I had to say is that this is Kali Yuga and any organization can be compromised. There is also an invisible and visible side to any esoteric organization and there could well be something different going on with either or any of them. The conclusion I came to was that not all Masons are bad people. No doubt there are a good number who are corrupt but they are not all bad. The result of my saying this was that some people completely ignored the clear and direct way I said this and determined that I am a Mason, or that I am compromised in some way because I want to be fair. It is the same thing when I get after the Khazars for their heinous behavior around the globe. Anonymous tries to paint me as hating everyone from that sector. On the other hand, radicals see me as an apologist for that sector. I'm just trying to be fair and reasonable but these are not times where that perspective is going to be completely accepted.
What I have just said, relates to what is under discussion here. If you are not honest with yourself about both important and seemingly less important things, you'll retard your ability to progress spiritually. People don't say what they mean a lot of the time because of the resultant controversy. Within your families and social networks that includes friends, associates, fellow employees in the workplace, there are all kinds of situations, where you can tell the truth and catch a whole lot of shit. People shut down. Next thing you know, they're text messaging junkies, with earpods affixed throughout the day and their legs crossed with the top leg bouncing on the bottom one. Not saying things, when they need to be said, can be just as bad as saying them. It's kind of like damned if you do and damned if you don't. Sometimes it has nothing to do with anything. This morning, an anonymous came in to harangue me about the Kirsten Stewart posting but it had nothing to do with that. It had to do with trying to impact on my self image. He was railing on about my picking on Kirsten Stewart when, as everyone knows, I was defending her. If you're going to harangue someone you should at least have your facts straight. This kind of thing is the rule usually around her, not the exception. It is generally the case all over the place because the foundation of wisdom is, “I don't know”. Not having this as a visceral awareness, compromises your existence all up and down the road until you do.
Engaging in meditation, chanting, prayer and the like, without knowing that you do not know, puts what you think you know, between you and the one who does know, as a curtain of obscuration. Within us, is the setting for two hierarchies and because it is Kali Yuga, one is the more likely event than the other and that one can look very much like the other one, given that the mind plays tricks on itself, because it lies to itself and becomes your worst enemy, instead of your very best friend (the fundamentalist Christian Zionists are an example of this and so are the Wahabi Muslims). It is to counteract this condition that The Tarot and things like Yantras and Mandalas came into being. The I Ching came into existence for this. Let us consider The Tarot, which is customarily debased as a fortune telling device and which only the rare bird can effectively use in this manner. The Tarot was designed to awaken the archetypes in your being. What is the point of telling the future, when you can change the future?
Resident within us, are all of the qualities and powers of the divine; awarenesses and states of being exist in potential form. Meditation upon a true esoteric major arcana, vibrates into the area where any particular archetype is resident. Eliphas Levi says “As an erudite book, all combinations of which reveal the harmonies preexisting between signs and numbers, the practical value of the tarot, is truly and above all, marvelous”. He also said, “A prisoner, devoid of books, had he only a tarot of which he knew how to make use, could in a few years acquire a universal science and converse with an unequaled doctrine and inexhaustible eloquence”. I studied with it for years and I attribute whatever small abilities I possess to this study.
Paramahansa Yogananda developed a system of meditation based on Kriya Yoga. There is an extensive course available through The Self Realization Fellowship that can take some years to complete. I highly recommend it. There is a course on Tarot taught by Paul Foster Case and Ann Davis from The Builders of the Adytum. I highly recommend it. It's a good idea to find one particular system and stick with it. These days there is an epidemic of dabblers. They flit from one thing to another, never staying long enough to get the value of any of them and many of them are without value, except for superficial feel goodness. They are expressions of the pop psych systems, where you go to three weekend seminars and then a four day intensive, after which you are called a master and you get a certificate that says that. This doesn't work long term so, it's off to the next seminar. The new age community is rife with this. Then you've got the Tantric Yoga teachers, many of them are German for some reason and they purport to teach people a system that is the most complex of them all, in a very short time. In the back of people's minds, they are going to get laid and be great lovers. Being able to get laid is a marvelous mechanism for enhancing one's sense of self worth but... you could be having sex with the divine.
This is the thing. There are all sorts of items available in this world and they are highly prized and greatly desired by the majority of the inhabitants here. They will do anything to possess some of them. They will kill and steal and lie, without reserve, to accomplish the acquisition. Meanwhile, there are the things of the spirit and they are of so much greater value than the things of the world that the comparison is probably impossible to measure. You have to make something the centerpiece of your life. There has to be a framework of practice and belief that guides your existence, or you are a pinball. You wind up spending your time in the shit happens zone and it happens to you. It happens to you to spur you in the direction of developing a framework of practice and belief. You will be pounded and pummeled until you do. Worst case scenario, you are not troubled at all and are allowed to prosper in your selfish behavior, until death and worse comes to call; “Those whom the lord loves, he chastens”.
We're trying here. “We're shaking it here, Boss”. You have to find the coattails and you have to hang on for dear life and beyond the charade that we call life. You have to catch those coattails somewhere and never let go. The good news is that the one with those coattails, is looking for you more intensely than you are looking for the one with the coattails. Why is it so damned difficult then? Ah, that's a mystery but it has something to do with making life the epic drama that it is. God loves a good movie and it is playing now, in a theater of existence near you, that includes you.
End Transmission.......
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This weeks radio show is in James' hands and will be up sometime today. Don't mind my being a little out of breath. That's how it is sometimes.
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I finally got around to making my own short radio show, me and Bill Greathouse, and the topic is how Israel and Mossad are the ones behind the fake anti-Islam movie, the killing of the US ambassador, and how they are using all of this to build up to a massive false flag attack which will be used to justify attacking Iran and starting World War 3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY6VflGFW8c
oh yea, it's only 20 minutes long, by the way.
Good grief.
Thank you Vis~especially pertinent on this first day of the New Beginnings. Thank you for the links, easy to get waylaid into the chaos and forget what is most important.
I had a dream this morning, hard to know the timeline... in it I was a very old hag...being walked through a crowd, led by a child. Old enough that my chin was at mid chest level-shrunken down about half a foot.
I was of a protected sort and was of the type that garlic and other warder offs of the 'evil eye' were created especially for.
Though cheery, I was uttering with any eye contact to the curious, statements like 'yur gonna die' and 'times up for you!' I was dressed in blue and had long grey hair.
Awoke wide eyed to this time with the kittens bouncing and pouncing right next to my heart. I was relieved that I had no such powers in this time. A sweaty little dream.
So those are the 'cards you color in yourself' from B.O.T.A. -thanks again for that link... I haven't seen it for a long time.
the gardener
LOL.
I'm the guy who gave you free cable, and now I am calling you 100 times a day, asking if you want to hang out.
Maybe I will even jump off the top of the TV cable satellite as a protest as to how evil and sick this fucking world is.
Okay what movie am I referring to?
Hint: "guy" and "cable"
I've seen all of Carrey's work.
Gardener; I had a dream about powers last night too, one of my most vivid in awhile. I had no age per se that I was aware of but the peculiarity of this dream was that it went from one dream into another all night long. I would wake up and then go right back into the next installment; highly entertaining, if nothing else.
Rambo, I managed to struggle through maybe 3 of your only(?) 20 minute "Radio Show", while you played Waldo to your friend's Statler.
Thank you so much for your revelation that 911 was a "staged attack, done by Israel". Whoever woulda thunk it?
If you want to continue to "inform and/or entertain", the best thing you can do now is go get your own blog -and stay there.
Goodbye.
You talked about the Kirsten Stewart type girl again lord visible,who in my own version I love forever but probably won't ever see her again,but that's ok because What i experienced with her would last a thousand lifetimes anyway,,,I think she maybe Venus or something,I am not really sure,,,,
I know what I have said doesn't matter to anyone one little bit,,am sorry for wasting comment space and such
But I thought I would just say,,,,,,
Good post lord visible
Respect neil
Vis, I've been doing installment dreams lately too. With a clock nearby and time not keeping up with the dream time. Waking up and timing the dream installments and always being surprised how time was not in synch with the actions and seemingly length of the dream time.
Don't you feel like we're just going to bust out of this dream vs awake states of being? Or is it going to just get more and more complex between the two states until we're just walking in all dimensions at all times. whoa doggy! Where 'time' is left out of the equation.
the gardener
Bill Bennett said on C-Span today that you don't know what you are talking about and he said Bill Kristol agreed with him, further stating that only "Conspiracy Kooks" waste their time listening to people like you...then he did that special look thingy that Neocons are famous for...
Well there you go...
what an endorsement...
...too Bad Chris Stevens didn't find out how to be truly happy...
maybe if people took more time to spend their interest in Truth they might get a better return on their investments...
http://www.rwainwright.com/images/Waco_SLIDESHOW_2_Int.mov
amazingly the overwhelming number of Idiots that cross my path are really stupid...[Kol Nidre]
surely that isn't a direct reflection of the "Education" dept, and the so-called "Media"...
Maybe it was Jesus talking to the "Lawyer", later called ATTORNEYS,
... who famously said WTF ? ...
no really...LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR
according to closet "Talmudists" like Hillary some "Neighbors" are most certainly more equal than others...
and in the final [STATE DEPT] analysis...Palestinians can't be neighbors because they're not really there...
http://www.palestine-encyclopedia.com/EPP/Start.htm
meanwhile at the Dept. of "Justice" there is a whole legion of "Lawyers" hunting down eighty year old "Nazai's"...not to mention a franchise expansion of Holocaust museums and educational materials for "Public" schools...
http://www.hardylaw.net/Carlos.html
one can only shake their head in dismay at how easily the braindeadgoy are mezmerized by simple ploys...
and as we now know some people will never try very hard...
at anything other than truth avoidance...as a WAY OF LIFE...
you couldn't have come at a better time..
See brother, we all got our own Litmus tests.
A few men have a litmus test they would call the "anti-feminist litmus test".
They use it to test a man's level of intelligence and honesty.
Truth be told, 95 percent of western men have failed this test. And 99.9 percent of western women have failed the test.
You clearly understand that there is something very evil and wrong about western culture and the West.
But to TRULY understand what that evil is, you have to literally remove yourself from the West and live in either an Islamic country or India.
Then you can understand very clearly what is wrong with the West, why the society is collapsing, why the culture is fucked up, and so on.
So it's funny how some western woman says "I am very intelligent", but the reality is that women are less intelligent than men, at least if you accept the Vedic perspective.
And the majority of western men are also less intelligent than the alpha-male Arab and Indian men.
This is very difficult to describe, but you can perhaps imagine what it takes to have left the West and settled in India and watch as every single cultural value and belief you thought was true crumbled around you. Then again, there is nothing more liberating than the truth.
I do not want to disrespect you Les, and call you a mangina or anything like that. But when some dumb bitch starts attacking me for no reason at all, and you side with her, I can only come to the conclusion that you have not transcended western cultural values at all. But I do understand that it is basically impossible to get rid of these cultural values unless you leave the West entirely.
I used to blame the women for how bad the west has become, but now I realize, it is actually the men's faults. I am FAR MORE DISGUSTED with western men, than I am with western women.
Western men stand by and let the women get absolutely out of control. Western men do not even know the meaning of the word dignity, or honor.
What was the result of giving women in the West unlimited freedom? Hundreds of millions of families broken apart, anyway I won't go into the whole ugly details here. If anyone is actually intelligent, google "anti-feminism" and start reading.
At this point, I have given up on the West, western men and women, and frankly, I hope the Illuminati destroys the West entirely. The West truly is "Satan", as the Muslims call it. The only hope for the human race is that the West will be destroyed. And if you actually realized the amount of things I have realized, 100s of points as to why the West is evil, then you would agree with this unpleasant truth.
Rambo, I really dislike slander. I didn't side with anyone. Perhaps you are referring to my "good grief" comment that went up before anyone but you said something. I said that because you came on here, ignoring my post and using the place for an advertising billboard.
If you keep up this dumbass ranting you are not going to be welcome here. You are acting like a troll and looking to spread dissention and create strife. No one wants that and no one want to hear about you war on women. Take note or you won't be seeing anymore of your comments. I suspect you've been lurking as one thing, looking for an opportunity to finally create problems. You are going to have to do that somewhere else. I'm tired of this shit and I really don't like the slander.
John Rambo... do us all a favour chap
and pull out your keyboard cable for a year or two.
Kind regards
Hussein
I especially liked today's post good Sir. I believe your uncompromised love of the spiritual divine is what gives your truth telling so much honest appeal and power.
I have a question I am trying to answer - that I value your input on. I am wondering what your opinion about tithing is. I belong to the christian prism ray mentioned in your post, and I wonder if the new testament endorses/indicates tithing.
I'm attending a non-christian zionist fundamental church and wondering if I should financially support them. They run soop kitchens and night shelters for anyone in need. I've been to seven services and so far not a word of support for israel or zionism. That's why I respect them - no politics from the pulpit.
What is your view?
Peace and love
I guess you didn't read Aisha's comment to your post Johnny Rambo...
http://aishanorth.wordpress.com/2012/09/15/the-manuscript-of-survival-part-196/#comments
Maybe then you would understand.
Les Visible, you frown on dissention on your site but as a woman and reader I'd like to confront John Rambo...Mr. Rambo, your handle is a give-away, an overcompensation. Really, I mean, Rambo? I won't embarrass you by speculating on what your overcompensating for, but I'd guess you're well under 5'8". Your non-stop babblings on "man-hating women" is classic psychological projection. Your Shadow is showing, and it shows a deep fear and hatred of women. The sad thing is that you're so oblivious and obvious that you're embarrassing youself. I cringe for you when I read your posts....Karen T
Hey Rambo, I sure am glad you're not here. Maybe you should drink bull piss instead of cow piss.
Karen, I got no problem with some amount of dissension because we do not always agree. I owe my very existence to the goddess and I try to see her in every woman; arguably some amount of women are fucked up by material culture and men who only want to fuck them and put notches on their guns but there are plenty of women that are the bedrock of existence as I know it. Rambo's wrong and he's been coming at me lately and I think he is representative of what i was warned about, people coming at me for what I do.
Mouser, as far as tithing, well, either my readers are the poorest people on earth or I'm not worth much to them and you want to give your money to some church? Boy does that warm my heart. I figure, truly that God wants to see how much I can take, well, I'm in for the distance. It does shock me though. You know, I was selling my books and hundreds of people took free copies when I offered but hardly anyone felt moved to purchase any of them, which is why I haven't finished the other one. I haven't made the videos I wanted to. I don't answer my emails anymore and I'm just waiting for my ticket out.
People like Rambo come around here and use certain agendas to come after me and all I ever wanted to do was be helpful and serve, to give a place where people could love and share but like all of these efforts when they are sincere, they get shit on and carry the whole fucking boat through the horse latitudes on their shoulder as if anyone cared where they wound up anyway so, to answer your question, you get out of things what you put into them. It doesn't matter what level you do it, you get what you put into it.
Visible,
"Trying to stay on topic here, boss". There is an advantage to "dabbling", if one has an open and skeptical mind. 90+% of the pop psych systems use the same basic formula, with a little mixing and matching. When one realizes this, it is easier to sift through the grain bin, seeking kernels of enlightenment. Guess this is an attempt to make a picture, as the overload of "systems" affects me.
Be well all, Rob
Thank you for your answer. I spent the past 11½ months in front of my computer at your sites and a handful of others - not working. I just started on the hamster debt slave wheel again last month and I was wondering about tithing to the Salvation Army since I will actually have an income for the first time in a year.
It may warm your heart to know many of the millions who have read your post over the years have greatly benefitted from your stated truths. Not many on the web combine a love for God with the facts about the world we live in. You do.
I agree one gets out as much as one puts in. Have you put your heart and soul into your work? There is your answer. Les Visble, it is a very favorable one in my opinion. May your heart be warmed, you are very rich on the balance sheet that counts.
Respect,
love,
peace
Mouser,
My understanding of tithing is that it is a requirement, as opposed to a contribution. I contribute to Salvation Army and local food banks, but there's no "contract". I'd contribute to Visible, if there was an easy way (refuse to do business with Paypal). If the church requests anything other than a voluntary contribution, would be suspicious, IMHO. Be well, Rob
I'm skint too lord visible,,,,if I wasn't I would buy ten of your books ...and distribute them amongst the local flock of the catholic church up the road from me,,,as nice as they are and stuff,,,they are completely and utterly hopelessly without a clue,,,,,
Respect neil
Rambo has been spamming a number of blogs trying to get attention. Obviously he got it but perhaps not in the way he wanted.
You know Vis, you may be on to something about your readers being poor. Poor but enlightened seems to be an ever increasingly played theme song.
Keep up the good work. Rewards come in many forms.
“I figure, truly that God wants to see how much I can take, well, I'm in for the distance.”
I bought The Darkening Splendor of an Unknown World as birthday gift, and the lucky recipient thoroughly enjoyed it. I would like to do more, but truth be told I’m poorer than you. Be that as it may, the least I could do is put a plug in for your book. Do you have a P.O. Box? The reason I ask is that PayPal is only a viable option for those within the banking system. While your tin cup is deserving of a full measure of rice, I will sadly only be good for the occasional grain or two. The pittance is simply a reflection of my own net worth, or lack thereof. You are worth more; hopefully more people will come to value their scribes.
I can see your point L.V. I have often wanted to send you money, but I can't seem to do that w/o giving out all my information. I am paranoid. I've been tapped bf.
you've played around and joked around enough to make me wish I actually knew you and could be help to you, but feel the distance.
In the past, you have pissed me off, as have some posters. But, even if I am mad, I still respect you enough to continue to listen to you speak. it is as if you are speaking to me, and you are one of the few people that I know understands at least as much as I, and in some ways, more, some less.
In any event, maybe you should post a P.O Box for people who just want to send a money order for a book? That could just be on your blog information as a contact? I don't email you either.
However, one time you said something that made me think you might have all my personal information, anyway. that's the kind of thing that keeps me distant...
The point of this is, I want you to know that whomever you are, and whatever you do, I appreciate your conversation. You add a lot to my thinking, and what you say has impact on me, personally.
and, I have said in the past, that if i can help you, all you have to do is ask me. I am a loyal friend, whatever the case may be.
I also warned you about that Mexico trip. I read Tarot cards, well. When I get a message, it is serious.
I don't get them all the time, and I'm not into that kind of overdone drama. I just know what I know. that Mexico trip scared me as did a poison woman who took charge. I still have no idea what happened, but I had bad dreams about it.
as to John Rambo and his anger at women, I can understand. I'm a woman, and many times I wonder what happened to all the smart men? of course, I am a divorce lawyer, so what can I say. I sure wish I could find a nice smart funny man with a good sense of love and luck. I could use a good husband. But, I often feel like I'm baby sitting on dates...so I have decided to just keep my own TV control..and closet.
but, you know you should never generalize, John Rambo, about genders or groups. as soon as you do, G-d comes along and kicks you in the butt and sends the exact opposite for you to learn that lesson again.
hard heads marry the same person twice, and expect different results.
Have a great day and thank you Les Visible.
Radio show is up.
Les, just read your last comment about your books for sale and what not. You are a person who intrigues me and I have read your blogs now for over 4 years. I am sorry to say I have no contributed to your financial stability and would definitely figure it to have been a wise investment. The better off you are and more level headed and clear you see the true reality of the world, the better for your readers.
I think it would be interesting for you to conider doing a video or two regarding your current situation and the history of how you came to be where you currently are. I know for one I would find it very interesting for someone to do a Q&A with you regarding your entire life. I know we get bits and pieces of your life (incarcerations, childhood, celebrity encounters, drug use, etc), but a complete look at the entire scope of your life would be wonderful.
I haven't come across many videos of yours online(except for a few radio shows that were blurry).
I had taken a couple months off from reading your blogs but sure enough in the last week I have started right back up again and your still on point, still spitting venom at the mainstream line of thinking.
Thanks Vis and I hope you consider doing a video/Q&A/small bio-pic on your life/future endeavors.
Tony.
Vis,
Maybe Rambo-troll is really Henry Makow, still miffed by how you characterized him in one of your blogs as someone who believes that the problems of the world would be solved if only women went back to wearing skirts.
Mandocello
Hello Visible....I am in.....I need to find the truth with in and your words are valuable to me.....onelove
I just bought your book at Amazon, The Darkening Splendor of an Unknown World.
Thanks for mentioning how few people have, I've been meaning to for some time.
Hi Vis,
back then when I heard your radio show about the Tarot, the chaldean flame alphabet, a universal science and so forth I knew that this might be something for me just as with meditation which I do for about 30 minutes every single morning since about a year thanks to repeated nudging by you and others. I already noticed a very positive effect of meditation after only one week.
I am a pitch perfect "Fifth Ray: Concrete Knowledge and Science" according to the article you have linked to. Is the Tarot always to be studied as a whole or could I concentrate on a subset of cards? How long would it take to get positive effects out of the study of the Tarot? I had positive feedback from meditation, dropping sugar, picking up physical excercise, even learning a new foreign language in less than month. Everything that takes longer than a month before seeing the first results probably wouldn't work for me.
Thanks for your radio show that I will enjoying in nature tomorrow where it usually has many times the impact as in front of the screen.
Michael
John Rambo doesn't seem to be popular around here lately.
Even choosing a pen name like that, tells plenty.
The funniest thing is that this women in Colorado owns the publishing to that book and she hates me. She gives me no statistics on what she has sold. She came here to my house and left because my guest room wasn't Hiltom level for her and I have not heard a word from here in two years when she told me all she wanted was what it cost to publish the book.I guess that's why she's rich and I'm poor. She's a horrible human being but she made me think she was okay. This is what I deal with and it happens over and over. One day god will send me decent human beings to work with but until then, good luck Visible, good luck.
pierre said....
service and forgiveness are the cure, else we all end up croans and old fogeys. like the Jesus says (I blasheme?).
movie of the Day
The Turin Horse . long, slow, tiresome, almost depressing and full of the sense of hardship and why one ought not to judge by appearances. dignity in adversity.
katz,
Thanks for your comments, they add to serious contemplation. Guess I'm a "hard head", having married the same woman twice, also divorced her twice. Funny thing, in our 60's, we're best of friends, sharing the grandkids' trials and tribulations.
Hope you find what you're looking for. Being a lawyer, it may be difficult (no insults, judgments, or bs). Perhaps another lawyer is the only solution. Anyhow, hope you find what you seek.
Be well, Rob
Visible-
I am not a very good typist. I am not a very good thinker and I'm old and I don't have a lot of money. You might say I am poor. As I see it, the problem is not getting money, but how to get the money TO you. Figure this out and I will be glad to spare a couple of bucks, as will many who come to your site, because it seems you've hit an impass(?).
Paypal is not a viable option for a LOT of people, myself included. Would like to say more, but like I said, I am old and when I think too much, my head hurts.
Ben G.
Michael@1:17,
Just a suggestion; Try "The Book of Thoth, Egyptian Tarot". If you can digest that in 30 days, you're one bonafideee genius. Sorry, just jerking you around; bad mood, I guess.
No harm intended, will sign off for tonight. Thanks for the forum, Rob
not often that I read your posts - and then the comments - and come away feeling 'sad'.
tithing feels like a 'locked in contract' and presupposes that our circumstances wont change for the worse. What's wrong with just giving when you're able?
Planted some purple petunias the other day. With a little care, they'll flower soon and be a joy to anyone who bothers to look.
....I did chuckle at the idea of God enjoying a good movie.... perhaps sitting down with a cuppa to enjoy Cool Hand Luke again.
love your work and cheers to all.
wow
you've been screwed over soooo many times
it's mind boggling
and this woman with your book? she sounds like such a pig
how can you even take it seriously at this point?
it has to be a cosmic joke on you
maybe ??????????? out there is just waiting for
you to LAUGH
for you to finally get the joke that you and your biography and your music and your writing have
all been set up as a practical joke
'everything but the hounds nipping at your heels'
it's all a joke -- zen proverb
cheers,
charley tuna
I have both your books here in front of me... "Darkening..." is published by "Visible Love Publications LLC-Boulder CO"
and "Spiritual Survival..." "published by VISIBLE ENTERPRISES TRUST"
since these both sound like legal entities created for your books publishing-it shouldn't be too hard to contact the state for information on that "LLC" and the 'Trust' including contact info... I did not buy these books for HER profiteering off yours and all the other great people here's works.
the gardener
it would be helpful if you would post a p.o. box that we could use for sending you 'mad money'....i would use it and i'm sure many others would to.
love to all
What this piece did for me was remind me, yet again, that everything one does, points to one thing: Intention.
You cannot hide your intention from yourself, you know what it is, but so few people stare it in the face and admit their true intention. It colours every aspect of life and if you are not aware of your intention, things go wrong until you are aware, our intention creates our reality.
The joke of our time is the suicide of intention.
PatrickW
Come on Vis, most of get what we need, not what we want :~]
If I really cared about all of that I would have done something about it, obviously I don't.
"We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our selection between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat in our drink, in our necessities and comforts, in our labors and in our amusements, for our callings and our creeds...our people.. must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live.. We have not time to think, no means of calling the mis-managers to account, but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow suffers. Our landholders, too...retaining indeed the title and stewardship of estates called theirs, but held really in trust for the treasury, must...be contented with penury, obscurity and exile.. private fortunes are destroyed by public as well as by private extravagance. This is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering... And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression." -- Thomas Jefferson
I'd like to apologize for whatever it was I said. I don't want to go back and look at it. An explanation is probably in order.
I have a friend here in the neighborhood, really the only friend that I have had in my years here that is close enough to come and see me most days and he does that. We really like hanging out together. He is extremely intelligent and well read. He's a doctor of Chemistry. Is that why we have good chemistry (grin), I don't know.
We have long conversations and he likes me to tell him about my life. Last night we decided to have a few beers, usually it's coffee and tea. WE got a little lit up and I was talking about all the bad and inexplicable things that had happened to me career wise, with my books, my music, my opportunities for performance, my inability to find an agent who can book me for lectures and just doing my visible extemporaneous thing, my being shut out of being able to make a living from my work and it's not like I'm no good at these things. I may not be the best or even top tier but I've generally been able to keep the audiences attention and make them laugh through the process here and there.
Anyway, as I was telling my friend about all the things that have happened to me, both of us got kind of shocked by how much of it there was. You know how you have an awareness in the back of your head of how something was but when you look at it, it startles you by how really strange or amplified it was compared to where you might have previously thought?
It was one of those things. Then my friend left and I was brooding somewhat. He had been seriously commiserating with me and that probably added to it. I was even on the verge of boo hoo country but my frustration and mystification sort of kept that at bay and so I aired it out a little here which isn't something I like to do and probably shouldn't do. It's one of the reasons I often don't comment. I've already said my piece and this area is more for the reader.
Anyway, I wasn't asking for anything. A few things came together and I wound up saying a few things. I cannot figure out why these things have happened to me. Do I have a built in failure mechanism? Is it the outworking of Karma? Is it a test and one of these days, all of a sudden it all comes together and I can have a brief season of ease and disappear as I already know something about that concerning me. I think some amount of that last scenario is what happens.
I've worked so hard, taken shit jobs just so I could afford to go home and work some more until I had to go to sleep so I could get up and do it again. Months and years would go into certain projects. The projects would come out great and then something terrible would happen to the end result as if there was a team of specialists in a room somewhere and the phone would ring and one of them would pick up the receiver, talk into it, hang up and then say to his colleagues, "Visible just put together a couple of albums". Or, "Visible just finished a book, let's mobilize guys and go fuck it up".
It feels like one of those SWAT or Seal teams, a klaxon horn goes off and they scramble like mad, glide down the firepole and jump into the fire engine, something like that.
I know God has my back and all this happened for a very good reason, in fact he told me that and he told me I was going to be very pleased with the final outcome but, every now and then it just kind of smacks me upside the head and I react without thinking and that's sort of what happened.
Anyway, I guess I'll go write a Smoking Mirrors. See you there.
Hi Vis,
I already have (but not read) Paul Foster Case - The Tarot (A key to the Wisdom of the Age). Did you suggest The Book of Thoth because it is better than Paul Foster Case for a Ray 5 type? And to ask again, is the Tarot always to be studied as a whole or can a Ray 5er get some insights by studying selected cards in detail and leaving out the rest?
Regarding astrology I read here that it takes at least 10 years of study or so to get any insight. I'll pass. I could and would study the Tarot for up to an hour a day and I am not too bright. So I would appreciate a negative message along the lines of: "Don't even hope to get any practical insight before having invested at least 2000 hours of study or so." as much as a positive one.
Wasn't this the sign of a zealot, if he is on the wrong track he doubles his efforts? Please don't make me waste some hundred hours and giving up when thousands of hours are needed.
Regarding worldly subjects a tribe member wrote than it takes about 10000 hours of deliberate practice to become an expert in a field. But which field requires thousands of hours of learning and basically flying blind without any intermediate results at all? I won't engage in any field like this.
Dear Vis, you don't have to answer these questions right now. You will hopefully write or talk about the Tarot again next year. I will either politely ask again or may already be a witness of the incredible insights than can be had thereof. Sorry for being so nosy but my ray always shines through.
Michael
May God bless you Visible.
Godspeed to you.
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i'm a lazy buddha that can not sit +
let my thoughts go just a little bit
i walk the world with no-one to meet
like a cat off a roof i land on my feet
i always awake before i hit
another dream a deep dark pit
there's a light in the sky
that's in my eyes
wait i remember
it's another sunrise
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I have the same problem Les. I have so many talents and abilities I feel very blessed but none of them ever make me any money or any success and I'm not asking for much. I hear people talking behind my back and they say I am afraid of success and that I sabotage myself but I know this is not true. I wish I knew what the problem was.
This will be my last comment here on your blogs, do not worry.
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Visible, I am not asking the question I am about to ask you to be flippant or to appear knowledgeable, or holier-than-all-living things, but what you wrote, regarding feeling as if you are being thwarted at every turn, struck a major chord with me.
My whole life, I have experienced the same thing, with very few exceptions.
I'll give you a couple of examples out of literally hundreds of them.
I am a web developer now - I've had intermittent success, had a few ups, had a few downs, but I keep my head above water for the most part, despite the reams of shit that is constantly thrown at me...enough so that I feel as if I am allowed to remain barely alive (as if I'm some sort of human battery for unseen forces).
Quite a while back I hit what I thought was a major home run - I developed a two-tiered plan to market websites to travel agents around the USA. First, I hit them with an email marketing piece - that piece linked to an online pitch/presentation which explained how I could get them exactly what they wanted (more business - which, of course, i absolutely COULD).
Sent the first batch out about 6:00 a.m. one morning. Two travel agents responded and said they wanted to buy. I did the math on the whole thing, and realized I was going to be raking in major cash in short order. Wow was I excited - no stopping me now, yep, here we go...
And then the planes hit the towers - because, you see, that was the very morning of 9/11.
The two travel agents rescinded their offers, the travel industry went immediately into the toilet, and I picked myself up, dusted myself off, and moved forward.
(That sort of last-minute BOMBING out of the blue, is commonplace for me. Although, I have to admit, that one was the ultimate kicker...)
From the time I was a kid, I had abilities that seemed a bit, well, "out there". No matter how I might try to quantify these abilities (in order to see if anybody else out there in Reader Land has similar abilities), I will come off sounding like an egomaniac, so I'll lay off that for now - but Visible, I think you know what I mean here.
My phone calls were tapped from the time I was a child; I know this to be a fact. I'd hear clicking noises on the phone basically every time I used it - I'd hear voices sometimes, muffled, in the background. And I'd be thwarted at pretty much everything I ever attempted, even though I had more than enough bullets to get the job done. Over and over and over, the things I wanted the most, would slip from my grasp - and it appeared as if there was some sort of organized faction behind all of this. It made no sense, and yet it was there.
When I was living in Dallas, Texas, years ago, I came up with four ideas in the span of about two weeks, that I could sell by mail order. One of them I actually went ahead and started to design. I told my friends about this (on the phone, of course) as it was going on. Four weeks later I opened a mail order magazine that I had been reading for years, and the four ideas I had come up with, were the four "hottest-selling, brand-new" mail order items. This sort of thing happens to me over and over and over...I wrote a screen play once, at the urging of a writer/producer whose film I appeared in. It was a treatment, actually. Gave it to him, never heard a word. It was about a lawyer who has a strange encounter which forces him to tell the truth. A year or so later, Jim Carrey's "Liar, Liar" hit the theaters. Again, this sort of shit happens to me so often, that I try to keep everything to myself and focus on spiritual development (when I have the money to buy the time to do so).
Visible, did you have nose bleeds as a small child? The kind that would start for no apparent reason? Did doctors offer varying opinions about what the cause was? I had them. Usually when I ask that question of people who have similar life stories, the answer is "yes". Which doesn't mean we don't have a common thread here, if the answer is "no". Just asking.
For beautiful Gaia and Venus ...,my heart
She sings through me there is nothing I can do
Just surrender and give her my duty
My heart melts in her luminous fingertips
Overcome in the passion of her beauty
Her hold like a breeze from the heavens above
Whispering love through the depth of my soul
I love her with all that I ever could be
With all I am my strength my whole
I bow down before her give her everything
I submit to the reach of her ways
The point of the tip of her living attention
The suns light split into seven rays
In waves of the bindings that reach through my all
The river that sweeps through my heart
I love her with all that I ever was
Her love a heavenly spark
..peace..
A new Smoking Mirrors-
Buggerland Heaven, with a Side of Kiddie Porn.
I had nosebleeds the way any child does, nothing exceptional. I was a bedwetter and the victim of nightmares but that I can lay at the feet of my environment. I am really sorry to hear about that happening to you. I fully expect God to give me a large farmhouse and land and I fully expect to provide a haven for people like you. Hang in there.
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Rambo? You're going to take your soccer ball and go home and meanwhile we are playing football and they call it Fussball over here. Europeans don't like the word soccer. that's an American thing. Nobody is throwing you out. I don't understand your need to fabricate what I do and say but you must have your reasons. I'm always a little suspicious of people who say, "I mean no disrespect" and then go on to pound on me. First the kiss and then the whip, eh? Were I you I would consider the condition of being able to dish it out and not take it. I've been very fair with you. even defended you in a sincere fashion. It's up to you how you take any of it.
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Michael, you will get major insights from the very first and I will tell you that you will look forward to those lessons with an eagerness that will surprise you. Stop putting yourself down too. Even showing this kind of interest or coming around here in the first place reveals a certain amount of wisdom and insight (grin).
I never recommended the Book of Thoth. That was someone else. I recommend only the Case and Rider decks. The pictorial symbology has to be something more than a pretty picture. Art is one thing, the Hermetic Sciences is another, even though the sciences do include a form of art. Don't believe what dumbasses say. "Success is speedy for the energetic".
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Good poetry this day. Est, that was something else and Neil as usual brings his best but Est, that is a keeper.
JLOC;
These things happen because we are like wine and also because we get paid in the coin of the realm we aspire to. I'm aware of this. It doesn't always feel good but it will. I will have that place somewhere and you will come and others will too and we will delight each other with our gifts. I don't think it will be too long. Someone is going to give me that place and we shall frolic like that time when the sons and daughters of god danced upon the mountain tops, in the morning of the world, for joy.
My poem could of been better lord vis,,,
Am just waiting here in no-mans land at the moment,
I too have had the same problems as you,seems the door shuts in my face at every opportunity,,,
Seems the people of the world have no use for me,,,
Only as a spitting post and whipping post ever since I was tiny,,,
But that's ok,,I will carry on,untill I just can't anymore
..respect neil
That the poem could be better is subjective. That the poem is exactly what it is and can't be measured against anything but itself is objective.
Thanks Vis for the clarification, it was indeed Rob who suggested the other book. I absolutely expected a response from you and as I read my name I immediately assumed it was you. There is a lesson for me right there.
I will now try to read the Paul Foster Case book for 30 minutes every morning followed by my usual 30 minutes of meditation. Let's see what or who shows up :)
Michael
Yep it is what it is,,,
But it is written with only heart and no mind,,,
Bad day for me,,,sorry
Respects neil
To be honest lord vis,,it's the Venus Kirsten Stewart girl,,,
I love her and where I have been talking to her again,,
My mind sort of wonders off somewhere else,,,,,
She turns me into a bowl of jelly,,
Will try to pick myself up,,,,sorry
Respect neil
via Homer..
Every day after day after day for years and years and hopefully forever, I think about that little spider who earned love's eternal liberation in Lord Ramachandra's loving glance.
By his sincere service of kicking a few grains of sand into the eternal ocean of service to God, his gain transcended all that is contained in the universe, and the universe itself.
Such a thing humbled even lord Ramachandra's greatest devotee, Hanumanji.
Your tears, Les Visible prabhu, are very precious, like sand.
Astrology is an ancient study with its own language-of numbers and symbols. That's why I like it so much. Personally, I think it takes many LIFETIMES to 'know' astrology as it is the study and knowledge of documented cycles. And the energies of those cycles, and the history of what is commonly projected by the energies of the combinations of those numbers and symbols.
For the right now I'd suggest anyone interested in astrology to go to http://astro.com and enter in your own data and get to know your own chart better than anyone else will or would or can. :)
Print out your chart and sleep on it-tucking it in your pillow's case for as long as it stays in there-it will imprint on your psyche that way.
Then practice writing out all the glyphs and numbers of your planets and the numbers that go with them. Do any of these numbers resonate with you, is there a pattern with the numbers?
Look up what the houses mean-and what having a planet of YOURS in them translates out to meaning.
Using your own chart means that you will know yourself better.
Along with this primal study-do a life flow chart on yourself.
Get a long piece of lined paper or write small or tape a few pieces together. For your birth year -start with line 1 and number it as 1...with the date of your birth then every line down number them until you get to the age you are now and this year's date.
Fill in every line you can remember off the top of your head for memorable events in your life-like 'age 22-1985-married' "age 23-1986-graduated college' along with every momentous event in your life so far. The older you are the more fun this exercise will be as you will see a flow of 'good times' 'hard times' and ups and downs and all arounds in YOUR life.
Good to see some concrete reality created of your life too. Then you can chart your flow sheet and see the cycles of good times and hard times and not waste any build up times to the good or easier cycles approaching.
the gardener
PS-the last time Vis mentioned these cards, I went to sites with free cards to download and color or paint yourself but I haven't ever had good luck with bonding works like that to a more durable backing... the BotA site cards are ones I will send away for once I have some money to spend... I find studies like these to be times of eager involvement with the added plus of learning something important to these lives.
Homer
I very much look forward to your comments,,,
Respects ...neil
Hi gardener,
thank you for your tips but I mentioned astrology only as a counterexample that I am sure is not the right thing for me. I formed this opinion based in no small part on the blog posting of Vis in the last few years and the comments of which I probably read more than 90%. Knowing what not to pursue is very important for me so I am thankful for the whole community here. After beginning the Tarot the next days I also would like to begin Yoga maybe 6 months from now. Even if Yoga did nothing for me spiritually the physical aspect would no doubt be benefical.
Michael
pierre said..
perhaps the divine uses us as shark bait. (apologies to sharks).
Brothers and sisters;
I am proud to say I have sent Vis gifts through every possible means and have yet to have it not show up or tampered with. I agree that paypal is as big a scam as all the other money changers so, mail it. If, it gets lost then it went where it was supposed to go and I believe Vis would be more than ok with that (putting words, forgive me brother and correct me when I am wrong).
Stop holding on for a rainy day because the Lord rains and shines on the just and unjust; and it just ain't right if you've received freely of the fruit of love. Money is imaginary but, truth is eternal. We all have a vice and I am asking each of you to let your vice take on Vis' face just one time this year, one time. I am not begging or demanding friends, I am asking.
Love,
ghana
Les, Thank you for your work. It resonates with me and obviously a lot of others considering your following. I feel for you (and anonymous). I have been thwarted most of my life. I have recently given up, you might say. I have surrendered to the higher power. I feel that if I was to have succeeded, it would have happened. When the universe supports what we're doing, doors open. If not, then not. But, strangely enough, I couldn't even 'drop out' correctly. I became absolutely plagued with a slew of health problems these past three years...autoimmune in nature: Rheumatoid Arthritis, Ulcerative Colitis, Psoriasis and just in the past six months...Lyme's disease and now a torn rotater cuff! LOL. What can you do? Sometimes its like life has it in for you. I also experienced frequent bloody noses, bed-wetting and nightmares as a child, by the way.
I didn't start this comment to be a total bore...I just wanted to say that Saturn is leaving Libra and I'd like to say that you might want to put an asterisk on your calendar for October 5th because I have a very strong feeling that the universe will be gifting you with something nice! (A still, small voice told me). Love you Les, keep on keepin' on 'cause you mean a lot to us. xoxo Dee
preacher, September 16, 2012 8:13:00 PM
I have been reading a few of Aisha North's latest comments, and wanted to thank you for putting up a link to her site.
Checking it out with my Higher Self, the channeled speaker is a 'good guy' with a Consciousness Level of 24 (about Shaman-level in my list; well-above the current injured/programmed human-level of 7 to 13). The comments so far seem a little general and 'keep up the spirit', but I have only read a few comments and will see as I progress further. Thanks again.
http://aishanorth.wordpress.com/
Best Wishes,
Ray B.
Ray B.,
What is Les Visible's Consciousness Level ?
How about mine?
Love and True Peace of Mind to All who come here to find Truth.
walking hawk
walking hawk, September 20, 2012 3:00:00 PM
I am assuming that your response to me was meant to be provocative (or at least as a reaction), so I won't respond directly.
I have a certain 'responsibility' not to be disruptive with any awareness I have. Part of that is not to give out information where it might do more harm than good. It's kind of like the proverb where it's stated not to destroy a person's faith or religion unless there is something 'better' to immediately put in its place (rough approximation of proverb - grin).
My intent with the Aisha North channeled speaker was to give the readership here a sense as to the 'level of wisdom' to be expected. You might note that I didn't give a Consciousness Level regarding Aisha North herself. That would likely overstep the 'guideline' I stated above.
As always, this is just my (current) view on things. Take what resonates with you and walk away from the rest.
I hope this clears things up.
Best Wishes,
Ray B.
A new Petri Dish is up-
Sliding Down an Endless Wall into the Silence.
Hey, wait a minute. I want to know whatmy level is.
Ray B. ,
My question about Visible was asked with honest and genuine interest.
The question about myself was only to see if you could pick-up remotely with almost no contact directly from me.I have seen your scale and I was just wondering if you might detect my scale close to what I perceive to be where I think I am on the scale.
Thanks
VISIBLE! I Thank You !
YOU are the One who caused me to lose all fear, paranoia and confusion about Life.
I've been awake for years but You enlightened me close to 3 yrs. ago.
The isreal connection did it.
now it all makes sense.
Life is a spiritual battle manifesting itself in this material plane.
I thank Universe for you.
Truly may all who visit here "Feel the FLOW of the Sacred Circle of Life."
walking hawk
Neil; Love those positive poems,keep'em comin'.You inspire me and I might come up with one sometime.
I love you visible.
via Homer..
I knew it - I'm a 6.
But if 6 also turns out to be 9...
Kidding! Just like a 6 year old does.
Ray, what is the level of Shastra such as the Rig-Veda?
Is such a thing within the realm of measuring?
Does your system consider a transcendental reality or is all energy measureable via material means?
In sincere curiousity.
I still don't know my level. I'm going to bed.
Off topic, but seeing as how this one is about to go archive, I've seen that "profiles in evil" has fallen into disuse. I'd like to see more of those.
I was wondering if you would let other people write some. With your approval and editing, of course. Some of those popes, like the Medicis and Deborgias, I'd sure like to know more about.
Anyhoo, here's a suggestion:
http://americanwisdomseries.com/239.html
It's one of the best ones I've read about gun grabbers, in general.
Ray Zerwitt
Absolutely!
Get in touch with Sim.
via Homer..
Easy as falling off a log.
"One can satisfy the Lord simply by love and devotional service. ... When Krsna says or God says that "Give Me this...," Just like He is begging from Bali ... He is so rich, so opulent, still He is begging that "Little flower, a little water, .... Even little done, it can act so nicely that sometimes it can save you from the greatest danger."
-Srila Prabhupada
So true brother Homer, I live that these days. I do not see your comments at Hare Krishna poem anymore. Just mentioning and noticing.
Much love
via Homer..
Yes Visible prabhu, it felt proper to end at 1008.
I'm very grateful to you for your support in the medium and for your words of worth as well.
Knowing that you would read these transcendental offerings served for me as a very nice personal bond with you and a few others who also visited, but most especially with you..
Thank you so much.
Om Hari Om!
Om Bala Shiva Om!
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yes homer
i thank you as well
as i read many, though
not all of your posts
i wanted to ask you
if you are familiar
with the isherwood/
prabhavananda trans.
i cut my teeth on that
one, excluding others
may peace
be with you
my friend
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Hi, folks. Sorry to be so late. First, I worked at my umbrella-organization job all that day, and then on to shopping. (Chop wood, carry water.) And then, an interesting tale occurred...
Walking hawk, Vis, and via Homer wanted me to do 'work' on Consciousness Levels for them. So, I checked inside to see if this was appropriate, got 'yes', and went to work. I got the numbers, wrote a lengthy posting around them, checked again to see if it was appropriate to post it, got 'yes', and pressed "Post."
Nothing happened. After a few minutes, I figured out the I had no Internet correction. Router okay. Went back a bit later. The same. Etc. Etc.
Hours later, the late television news had a blurb that my Internet Service Provider (ISP) was suffering a long outage. Finally, I went to bed.
Now, my ISP is a major company. Outages are rare, and even then last on the order of ten to twenty minutes. Several hours is unheard of.
On the basis of the above, I am making an assumption that a higher source did not want my post going out. Whether it was a general no-no or whether it had to do with the people involved, I have no idea. (If you 'live' beyond Spacetime, it all is visible [grin] to you. You can see the downstream results of any action, and 'intervene' to change it if you want.)
Therefore, I am 'out of the business' of posting Consciousness Level work concerning our blog folks, and maybe more. Much earlier, though, I reported Consciousness Level readings on past and current Presidents, and that went through. So, there must not be a 'blanket' ban.
I will try next to post on via Homer's Rig-Veda (etc.) questions, and see if that will post.
Hmmm. At first attempt to post this (next morning), the Internet connection is up. However, I cannot get through to Visible Origami or Smoking Mirrors, which is never a problem for me. An interesting time...
(After work again, VO is finally accessible.)
Best Wishes,
Ray B.
walking hawk, September 20, 2012 7:58:00 PM
Forgive me; I seem to have jumped to an unwarranted conclusion.
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via Homer, September 20, 2012 8:38:00 PM
I got a 25 to 26 Consciousness Level for the Rig-Veda. This actually fits in quite well with my list, since 25-level corresponds to Saint consciousness and 26-level corresponds to Sage consciousness. (I did not try to force-fit an answer; this is what Higher Self gave me.)
via Homer: "Does your system consider a transcendental reality or is all energy measurable via material means?"
Actually, I have not been able to 'reach and match' to an all-God level. When I try, I 'fade out' somewhere along the line. There is no Subject and Object at the ultimate level, so it does not seem to be measurable in this sense. It may be the equivalent of a number up in the multi-hundreds, or perhaps the equivalent of an infinite number. I do not know.
The usefulness (to me) of the Consciousness Levels system is in the 'laying out' of the tapestry between me and as close to all-God as I can get. Much can be learned as one ventures up and down the levels, and interacts with the species 'inhabiting' them.
About all the "material means" that I use is the physical body as a 'receptor'. I believe it is probably much harder to hold to this 'task' without the body as a grounding/holding point (i.e., "spacing out").
The practice truly depends on the transcendental reality. The practice is: I ask Higher Self to form a column 'up' to all-God, and then focus onto where I and the Other both 'coexist'. Then, Higher Self does its thing and centers on a number. Unprovable, but it works for me.
Some months ago, I tried the best way that I know to explain the 'background':
"...my favorite analogy of me relative to all-God is of a tree. Picking say, roots, I see the all-God as both the central trunk and the 'essence' or 'deep structure' all the way out to the rootlets. Most of the mundane day, I am probably a divide or two from the root-end in my awareness. When I am meditating or in my 'hyper-aware' state, I am spread out a lot more along the root. When I ask for the various consciousness levels of 'me' to link-in together, optimally I am spread out all the way to the central trunk and operate from 'all' the varied awarenesses.
So, in a nutshell, the whole root is the various consciousness levels 'spread out' from the unified whole (and maybe all just an illusion, in the Buddhist sense). All-god at the center, and physical creation towards the tip. An imperfect analogy, but the best I have at this time."
I hope this helps. Questions are welcome. As always, take everything with a grain of salt, and see what resonates...
Best Wishes,
Ray B.
Ray B. ,
No apology necessary, but thank you for responding.(it's all good)
I would like to say to you that I've been reading Visibles work and all the commenters for apx. 3 years now.
I resonate very much with many spirits here but dont comment much.
This place has so much to offer in the opening of the mind and spirit to help others.(or all)
That being said, I am into positive energy things. Thats why I will hang around here as long as I possibly can. It seems like this may be one of the last stops on the search for truth for me.
So, I would ask you if possibly the (negitive forces)I suspect, are the reason you can't post numbers for Les and I? Especially because of all the good vibes (truth)this place emits.
Could you please try again and I will take or accept what I can get? You have my curiosity now. (grin)
I do believe most souls here in Visible Land are of the positive force of life and are helpers of humanity.(Trolls are just for the humor and entertainment)
Visible and All,
I Love You All from my Spirit.
(which is all of Our Spirit)
walking hawk
via Homer..
Thanks Ray, for your honest efforts. Being a living monkey wrench, I understand and expect manifestations of error/anomaly in practically everything I do or am associated with.
I must say your approach seems exhausting to me, even as I briefly observe from my position of ignorant curiosity.
I wish you well!
est, yes I am familiar with this Gita translation you refer to though I've never attempted to read it.
I have read of it.
Bhagavad Gita, As It Is penetrated my thick skull and sad heart to allow a place for faith in Srila Prabhupada and the Supreme Personality; Lord Sri Krishna.
The "Krishna Book" (Canto 10 of Srimad Bhagavatam) broke my heart in a very very wonderful way.
To properly realize my gratefulness for this mercy is a goal, a milestone beyond my current ability to express.
It might take a million years, but I'm in for the long haul.
Thank you for asking.
walking hawk, September 22, 2012 5:35:00 PM
Thanks for the extended response. I agree with your assessment of this site; it is a watering hole. However, I will not be posting any blog individual's Consciousness Levels for the foreseeable future. The 'higher source' made a pretty solid statement on that. Sorry.
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via Homer, September 22, 2012 5:53:00 PM
Thank you for your kind reply.
"I must say your approach seems exhausting to me..."
We all have our own pathways up the mountain. I believe that I have had many, many past lives of an eastern monk/priest/seeker. Every time I see/do various eastern spiritual 'things', it 'snaps' me into vast unseen spaces. I dearly loved the 'grasshopper' scenes of long ago, took great joy from 'wax on, wax off', and laughed out loud at the portrayal of the enlightened Tibetan monk leader in "Golden Child." I have attended lectures of Tibetan lamas as they came into town, and it all seemed 'familiar'. (Strangely enough, I have not been pulled towards the present Dalai Lama...)
Somehow, I am absolutely 'saturated' in various eastern practices. I enjoy them in the manner of hearing a favorite sixties tune in an unexpected location. A deep, to-the-core joy. Chanting, instrumentals, even incense can shift me into that 'remembrance'. (An eastern martial arts movie that has a deep spiritual core affects me that way, but one focusing primarily on externals just leaves me wistful and somehow disappointed...)
However, that same saturation is in a sense my 'block'. I get a strong inner sense of 'enough' on that particular mountain path, whenever I am tempted to walk it. When I went to see different Hindu enlightened ones in their ashrams in India, I enjoyed the early moments and the 'flashback' effect. In spite of the opportunity, the 'enough' factor soon took hold.
Hence, for me, back to basics. I remember a teacher saying, "If I remove your body, what is left?" Somehow, that is my path. I 'sense' unseen presences, walk up to them, and say "Howdy. Want to talk?" This brings me the greatest joy. (For positive entities... grin)
I hope this makes sense. For me, this is my 'bliss'.
Best Wishes,
Ray B.
via Homer..
"The 'higher source' made a pretty solid statement on that. Sorry."
Ray B, for the reader's edification, perhaps you might be so kind and helpful as to expand on this a bit?
If at all appropriate..
I'm sure others are also very interested as to what this "solid statement" entails.
Once again, sincere curiosity compels my asking.
via Homer, September 23, 2012 6:52:00 PM
Ray B.: "The 'higher source' made a pretty solid statement on that. Sorry."
via Homer: "Ray B, for the reader's edification, perhaps you might be so kind and helpful as to expand on this a bit?"
My statement was referencing my post (above) of September 22, 2012 4:16:00 AM. That was when my whole ISP went offline regionwide, just as I was Posting my original response (with numbers) to you all. The fact that this major ISP was down for a whole evening (which never has happened before) combined with not being able to access Vis' pages for another day (which never has happened to me before) tells me that some 'higher source' (high enough to be able to accomplish this) was not 'happy' with my posting blog participants' numbers.
It is something like listening to the 'still small voice'. From the 'higher source' side, something needs to happen or not happen. If you 'get it' early (and do/don't do what is necessary), it quits there. If you 'miss it/ignore it', the next 'voice' is louder, like a sit-you-up-in-your-bed nightmare. If you 'miss it/ignore it' again, the next level 'voice' is louder yet, like a physical occurrence to make the point. Etc., whatever it takes.
So, I am taking the ISP/Vis occurrence as me having reached the physical level on this subject. I really don't want to push it further, and have something like my compute hard drive mysteriously 'fry' or even something physical happen to me. I have been down this road before, and have learned 'earlier is easier'.
My only question on all of this is that I was aware of the possible ramifications of publishing numbers and had been checking "yes/no" with Higher Self all along the way. To have the ISP/Vis occurrence happen means (to me) that there was some major 'lapse' along the way. The meaning of that, I will be pursuing.
Does that meet your question? TMI? (grin)
Best Wishes,
Ray B.
via Homer..
Thank you, Ray B.
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